Comments on: More harmful effects of the Oneness Blessing Deeksha

by: a russian

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:13:00 +0100

There are followers of Bhagavan who still sometimes contact me for help. Two days ago a man from Russia phoned me. He used to come to most of the deeksha courses I conducted in his area when I was in the Movement. He usually brought a lot of new people every time came. He is still in the Movement and we continue to be good friends.
His young daughter attended a deeksha retreat in Ukraine in May (2007). After the retreat she was missing for a couple of weeks. Her parents couldn’t find her and were very worried. When she finally came home, she slept only for four hours a night; she did Bhagavan-yoga when she woke up in the early morning and kept on praying to Bhagavan and/or repeating the Moolamantra (Bhagavan’s main mantra) all day long. She would not eat or drink, even when her parents tried to force her. Before leaving for the retreat in Ukraine, she was herself. When she came back, they did not recognize her. She became completely introvert and avoided speaking.
They phoned the deekshagiver who had conducted the course in Ukraine asking him what to do. He replied that once such process has begun, it will be difficult to stop it; it is a cleansing process that needs time, he answered. The parents were afraid that she would die and phoned some local deekshagivers for advice; they promised to come to the girl’s house after 3 days.
The situation was urgent as she wasn’t even drinking, so the parents decided to call me to ask for advice, although it is extremely expensive for them to call a Swedish cell phone from Russia. I told the parents that if I were them, I would have “scared her”, in a soft and gentle way, of maybe having to admit her to the mental hospital. This would hopefully ground her and make her take a step out of her world of illusions. I recommended them to immediately bring her to a psychiatrist and get advice and maybe medicine. They went to a psychiatrist the same day.
From the day the daughter returned back home, especially when she was in the hospital, she often repeated: “Allow me to go to Bhagavan, don’t take me away from Bhagavan”. They saw she was brainwashed and had lost herself.
The following day the parents phoned me again and said that after seeing the doctor and getting the medicine she was much better, she had started to eat and drink. She wasn’t out of the psychosis completely, but it was definitely better. The most important was that she had started to eat and drink and was reachable: she had begun to talk to her parents again.
When people get “deeksha psychosis”, the most common advice from dasas and deekshagivers is to just trust Bhagavan and surrender it all to him. I have not seen that this helps; I always suggest immediate professional help when someone gets deeksha psychosis.

by: a russian

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:10:54 +0100

A woman that I know went to visit Kalki Bhagavan. She is from the city of Yaroslavl in Russia. Shortly after returning to Yaroslavl she started to repeat Bhagavan’s Moolamantra all the time. If at all she took a break from the Moolamantra, it was only to pray to and worship Bhagavan and Amma. Soon she became mentally sick (psychotic) and it took years for her to become better. After the acute psychosis had vanished, she left the Oneness Movement. She had to start all over again as she had lost her job; her relationships had to be rebuilt, and much more.
There have been many cases where people get similar symptoms when having intense devotion to Bhagavan. They refuse to do anything but praying to Bhagavan and repeat his mantra. Little by little they loose their job, families and friendships break apart etc.
The parents of the girl that became psychotic were surprised at the lack of support they got from deeksha givers and the various leaders in the Movement (incl. the national leader) when their daughter was in a life threatening crisis. They were as surprised when everybody suddenly started to call them and offer help after they had phoned me and the problem was not acute anymore.
When the local deekshagiver, finally came, the parents asked her why she had not informed them that I had left the Movement long ago. They only got avoiding replies. They now decided to “deplug” from Bhagavan who had made their daughter sick. They threw away all the photos of Bhagavan that hang in every corner of their house and left the Movement.

by: JH

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:55:29 +0100

Hi all,
I attended a deeksha giving by a lady called Amira on 5 May 07. Apparently, she is the Oneness Movement’s representative in Taiwan, Taipei.
It was quite intoxicating when I received it. I actually had a vision of Buddha and saw gold yellow light surrounding her and me. I was told by Amira that it was my destiny to go to India and do the 21 day process there. I was seriously considering it. It cost USD$5500. That doesn’t include the airfare.
I meditated on this question and on the deeksha and consulted my spiritual guides about it. The answers I got surprised and concerned me. I was told that I had spiritual protection because of the spiritual work I had done and therefore I had received only 10% of the deeksha energy that was ok. But the deeksha in and of itself was mostly bad. I was very concerned.
So I went to a friend (an ex-pastor) who had a machine that could calibrate energy to confirm my suspicions. I had been given a picture of Sri Bhagavan & his wife. So he used that to calibrate the deeksha energy. His findings confirmed what my guides told me.
Although the energy being passed by Amira was high (over 400) – according to the machine’s calibration anything at 200 or above puts you in a healing state – the deeksha energy being passed in the energy checked out as being all negative. So it was a very high negative energy that was being passed during deeksha. And it was not a transfer of grace at all, if any.
I was told not to go for the second deeksha as my lesson was to learn to differentiate between good and negative energies. I had learned my lesson.
Blessings be!
J.H.
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada